korra losing connection to past lives reddit
Remember, she was the one who gave unaloq a leg up on his plans by helping him open the portal and taking his side early on. Or maybe we get to see the next Avatar communicating with Korra only, which would be cool because 1) that Avatar might be at odds with Korra/ be frustrated that she sewered the connection 2) they might have a weird best-buddies beyond the grave reationship 3) Korra's spirit might be challenged from the responsibility of being the only former Avatar available to the next one. In LOK they found a good middle ground for that I think. Alternatively maybe the old Avatars can still be reached in the spirit world but not as quickly and conveniently as before. Korra being the beginning of a new cycle has a lot of story potential, especially given her growth through Books 3 and 4. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the TheLastAirbender community. Personally, I don't mind it. Over there you would only hear things like ''Korra bad, worst avatar, hate it''. Initially I was on the fence but I like it. I feel that having the past avatars in her head going through all that she did would have been detrimental to her progression, and maybe even barred her from learning extended forms of bending. 4th Season ends with her connecting with Asami. During a panel for ATLA/LoK at Anime North in Toronto, I made it awesome by bringing up the subject of Korra's lost past lives, made the same argument this thread's been making, how i pointed out that an ancient threat like General Old Iron might return and Korra might need the wisdom of her past lives to combat it. Now in season 2, not only his the instrument of that salvation permanently lost to korra, its partially her fault. Think about it, before HC, what was Korra like, bending wise? Yanchen essentially wrested more territory from spirits for humans to expand to. After she was forcefully separated from Korra she was the one that lost all of her previous connections. And doing it didn't add anything to the series. Toxicity exists within expectations. In the vein of the original series, Korra is able to employ the use of the Avatar cycle to connect with her past lives. Hey ! I personally like what they did. Overall I think it was good, and gave us Change and Balance which couldn’t have really happened with the connection to past Avatars not cut. Learning things about them is so cool and could be tied into the plot. Got that covered. Ficlet compilation about Aang and the past avatars reacting to the shit that goes down in Korra's life. I didnt like it but I accepted it. Personally i like it. And she always leaned on her friends heavier than her past lives, even when she did have the connection. She's more than just the Avatar, she's her own person. For the rest of the show Korra endures hardships without the guidance or power of her past lives, but looking back over the series reveals that this separation isn't as permanent as it seems. It just seems so important to the character of the avatar to remove. kyoshi: [ID: âkuruk. Jinora was able to help restore Raava, but not the past Avatars. Traumatic events? Her spirituality was pretty low, and she didn't really learn energybending, just kinda how to reverse Amon's whole schtick. Later on in season 3, korra is still suffering from the loss, lamenting that she has no one to talk to for advice which forces her to turn to people like iroh and zuko instead. 2nd Season ends with the past lives being severed. LGBTQ+? Objectively speaking they really didn't add much to the last airbender either. Especially the cool headed experience guidance of her past lives. Korra never even tried to contact her past lives after S1, despite there being good reason to do so, so it didn’t even make sense. I absolutely hated it. The subreddit for fans of Avatar: The Last Airbender, The Legend of Korra, the comics, the upcoming Avatar Studios animated movie and other projects, novels, games, and all other Avatar content. In that season, we saw korra get completely bailed out by one of her past lives. Korra losing her connection and restarting the avatar cycle makes sense narratively due to the obvious parallels drawn between her and wan. Just choose from the list. On the other hand I feel like it kinda kills any future avatar stories. She can’t give up, no one should. 2. Maybe we get to see older Korra relying more on studying old Avatars or on communicating with Raava more. It's also thematically consistent with the theme of change, which is a big part of LoK. And it's not like Korra didn't know what or who the avatar is supposed to be, she knew that from the start, being aware she was the avatar from before the age of like 5 and being taught by the White Lotus whether it was her choice or not. I feel like it's okay for Korra to seldom or never talk to her past lives as a strong headed and unspiritual person. It basically meant that 10,000 years worth of past incarnations & experience had gone down the tube. Meh. No growth, no consequences. So, I have a theory... Korra (pre Convergence) is the weakest Avatar that we know of. On one hand you can see how loosing the connection builds Korea’s character. That doesn't mean that we won't get more history on them. Korra was born to Tonraq and Senna in the Southern Water Tribe following the death of Avatar Aang in 153 AG. Makes her accomplishments feel more of her and Team Avatar's doing rather than the past lives. And the guidance she got came from people who were more than qualified to be helping the avatar, Iroh especially. It emphasized how alone Korra felt as well as how she has to forge her own independent path in the world, The past lives are overrated too, they're only there for exposition or fan service, most of the time they give advice the Avatar ignores them and does their own thing, Yangchen even supports this idea in the Kyoshi novels. The same exact glows. The result is Unalaqâs plans develop further than they have any right to. AU where Vaatu doesn't actually destroy the connection to her past lives because I said so. We saw that as Vaatu was whipping her each of the avatars past lives were being destroyed, so maybe the force of Vaatu's attacks either destroyed the pieces of the old avatars she kept with her or caused her to loose grasp of them. I don't think the execution was great, but short seasons will do that. Korra lost her connection with her past lives and nearly failed to beat Vatuu if it wasn't for Jinora. And I remember back when the show ended how some people said they felt sorry for the next Avatar since all they'd have was Korra. Korra is the reincarnation of the past Avatars. korra connecting with her past lives: aang appeared in a moment of vulnerabillity. Or rather, equal to one other: Wan. She needs guidance. Korra may not be able to commune with past Avatar spirits, but she is still surrounded by people who’s experiences and wisdom are as valuable as any other Avatar, for the Avatar is also a human being♂️. i find it super sad because thatâs so much history and help gone forever and i donât think they will ever be able to connect to them again or in fact anyone. And not to mention this retcons the avatar state. Losing the past lives just means that Korra can no longer communicate with them. She lost it because Vaatu separated Raava from her spirit. 3rd Season ends with Korra being broken mentally and crippled. It's excessive and seems like it's spitting in the face of fans who like the history. While a tragic moment, Korra losing her connection with her past lives is not only inevitable but essential to her journey. Korra is the beginning of the next Avatar cycle. Korra will just be the first instead of Wan:). Having all of the last incarnations permanently available for the new avatar lends itself to the avatar slowly becoming static. This act destroyed her link to all her past lives, to Aang. 3. A steam punk future would be cool I guess but the charm for me was the fuedal era that got me sucked in. No past lives. I would personally remove just season 2 from canon minus the wan episodes if i could. It’s not like the past Avatars are any “deader” than they already were - Korra / Raava just lost their connection to them. Though she CAN connect with Raava. So, I have a theory... Korra (pre Convergence) is the weakest Avatar that we know of. And in the world as Korra is set in, that's changing rapidly, those kinds of conflicts would show up back-to-back with sometimes little resting period. Language: English Words: 828 Chapters: 1/? But, since she doesnât, Unalaq is allowed to fuse with an evil spirit and sever Korraâs connection to her past lives. It wasn't just done for shock effect or whatever. Removing it seems to injure future stories much more than Korra’s. I still can't help but wonder how many harmonic convergences that happened since Wan, there were a lot of avatars in between him and Korra. This independence means more to her than the physical independence of finishing her avatar training. I always assumed the past avatars were different people, because otherwise how can Korra interact with Aang (example), if they are same person who lived in different times? Remember, she was the one who gave unaloq a leg up on his plans by helping him open the portal and taking his side early on. It makes sense narratively to wipe the slate clean for the next avatar as we use to have so many possible perspectives to guide them and it acted like way more of a crutch. :) She loses all confidence in herself because of this, until she learns that it is in herself that she must place her faith, rather then as an avatar or bender. Rated: Fiction K - English - Spiritual - Korra, Raava, Spirits - Words: 1,033 - Favs: 12 - Follows: 6 - Published: 2/25/2015 - Status: Complete - id: 11074088 Downvote me all you want but LoK was fanfiction, I personally don't like what happened but to be honest the rest of the show was actually pretty good other than that. Korra went in blindlessly and most of the time failed. It was a tragic loss during an emotional scene in an intense battle of good vs. evil that I feel people have let snowball into some violation of the fans or something. It also fits into Korra's arc of finding her own idenity. In that season, we saw korra get completely bailed out by one of her past lives. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Yes, the original show that started it all is great, but that was showing just one conflict. The cycle is just reset, there will be more past lives. Upon re-watching The Legend of Korra's second season (and by "re-watching", I just watched the episodes that mattered), it bugged me that Korra was severed from her past lives, a la Raava being ripped from her and was destroyed. Just out of interest, as I know there are differing opinions on this, but do you guys like the idea that she is starting a new cycle or do you dislike this idea and that she lost connection to past lives? Right at the time when she could have utilized her past lives the most. At first, I didn't like it, but it teaches people to learn to move on from the past. Look at Kyoshi Island episodes in ATLA, for example. So this is just Korra unable to contact Aang. But I think she will still be able to talk to them at their shrines (like Aang and Roku) and the spirit world. This gets posted on here pretty often it seems. So it also spurs character growth as a result. And her losing her connection to her past lives was needed for her to go forth into the future to propagate Avatars that are more adaptable to changing times. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think that deleting intriguing and complex mechanics from your universe, from a writing standpoint just removes possible future options. The Legend of Korra is a show about trauma and change â about how endings become beginnings, and new growth comes from the destruction of the old. And I could go on. I will be skeptical of any avatar stories after Korra because it seems the fact that an avatar has a connection with their past lives moves the stories forward. It really sadden me as I think it's the most valuable ability the avatar has, so I was wondering if only Korra lost this ability or all the other avatars after Korra won't be able to connect with their past lives too, exept Korra ? I've always seen the past lives as an extremely convenient and overused plot device, which is why season 2 finale made me significantly more excited for the future seasons. Kyoshi was so powerful, her base earthbending was able to lift up earth from the ocean floor (from the books) and lived for over 200 years. Aang proves to be victorious. -Korra, now merged with Raava, returns to maintaining world balance, however she cannot connect with her past lives. 2 Korra Didn't Fully Lose Her Bond With Her Past Lives It happened - now what? I know if we saw Aang trying to teach her everything by using flashbacks as Roku did with him, we would essentially be watching scenes of ATLA or something in LoK which I'm not a fan of. It'd take a while, but she'll be there for them. It removes a plot device that can be used to circumvent hard choices. Moreover, itâs a pivotal moment for the showâs overall message. Comments: 3 Kudos: 95 Bookmarks: 12 Hits: 1110 Aang's spiritual connection was much stronger and he actually asked previous avatars for help. And her losing her connection to her past lives was needed for her to go forth into the future to propagate Avatars that are more adaptable to changing times. But I‘d like to add that with more content coming I would like it if they explored the implications more. She struggled to enter the spirit world in season 1 as well. A necessary loss. aang connecting with his past lives: went to rokuâs temple. I recently re whatched the season 2 and in the last episode, Korra says hat she lost her connection with all the past avatars. Like everyone who complained on the basis that it was painful to watch, I whole heartedly agree. After opening the spirit portals and reconnecting the spirit and physical realms, new airbenders began sprouting up all over the world. what if that happened when Azula shot Aang with lightning killing him in the process? The Legend Of Korra: 5 Marvel Villains Korra Could Defeat (& 5 She'd Lose To) ... the Avatar State took a huge hit in power with the loss of all of her past lives. She'll never restore her connection with the previous Avatars, and they'll never be seen from again. I dont like the thought especially with the fact that new avatars cant even talk to korra or the one before them. I kind of always felt like a Gaang member should have died in the fight just to not make it a perfect victory and to add some more flavour to the ending of Atla but then again they do all play pretty important roles in the future so I'm not sure on that. I donât think the past Avatars are ever returning. She seems more independent that way. Thats just another reason I thought it was a good idea. Perfect 50/50 ;) If the strength comes from the bond, then the next avatar might only have Korra's strength and essence to build on. I think the point of the Avatar is that they're the cumulative knowledge of thousands of lifetimes. It's a real shame, since past lives/past memories have been used so effectively in many other series. Aang learned and perfected energybending. By losing the past lives, she lost a piece of herself in the process. And that is why, to me, Korra is a legend. It's not like they were that relevant honestly, on top of that what could any of the have to offer in a modernizing world. After Unalaq fused with Vaatu to become the Dark Avatar, he severed Korra's bond to Raava and ultimately her connection with Aang, Roku, and every avatar before her. Didn’t really mind since I hope they don’t really go any further than Korra. I think some of yall need to get over this. Subscribe for more videos! It like how it doesn't allow Korra someone wiser to rely upon at all times, so she if forced to rely upon herself and friends, or go out of her way to find someone wiser. At times she is rash and even frightened causing her to follow a path of immense difficulty. I wholly believe she could learn other sub practices of bending like lava, lightning, and blood, a lot easier without the old traditional avatars whispering to her, and that she was able to overcome what she went through with Zaheer because she had to do it pretty much on her own. Even in LOK past avatars played a major role in the aftermath of Amon taking Korra’s bending away. 9/25/2020 I agree with Echo, but I would still say that the past lives should reconnect to Raava. 10 Aang: Connection To Past Lives. And you can't even say it doesn't affect her. Notice Raava and Vaatu's natural state. I think it made sense to restart the Avatar cycle, and it really shows how strong of an Avatar Korra is to do what she does in the following seasons without the help of her past lives. :)Suscribanse para mas videos! It means that her past lives still empowered her to do such thing, also the spiritual energy in the Republic City also helped. Of course, at this point, Korra still had her past lives. Yes, I certainly don't blame korra for what happened. I personally didn’t mind it. Part of the problem is that most of the time these past lives are so far removed from the present that they can really only offer either general advice or extremely specific pieces of exposition, like Roku and the Solstice or Aaang and Yakone. It's only once Raava is ripped from her, that the connection ⦠This was bound to happen one way or another. It was with Roku 80% of the time. And even then, it's not like Aang communicated with all of his past lives on numerous occasions. Now streaming on Netflix, 'The Legend of Korra' always shows Korra picking herself back up after falling, and becoming a better Avatar because of it. And TLA basically undermined the whole premise in the finale anyways. That too. Press J to jump to the feed. I don't dislike the choice, as long as it can be remedied. Would avatar be “interesting” if Aang didn’t meet Sokka and Katara? I guess yeah, shows can be pretty boring if they don't have impacting things. The past lives are APART of the avatar. It's a bold move which people always say they want (but often don't actually when something bold is done). By destroying the past lives, the writers effectively traded a tired and worn-out plot device to raise the stakes to 11 and create a fundamentally new chapter in Avatar that the show took full advantage of. I don’t like the idea of “seeing how Korra does stuff on her own” as interesting. She had Tenzin the entire time, Iroh for a brief period (though the connection had not been severed yet), Zuko to help her in Book 3 for a small time, and Toph in book 4. I don't love it, but I feel like the concept as a whole was pretty underutilized in both series and as is removing didn't harm Korra much and may have even improved some aspects (furthering the eventually S4 depression). It's a bold writing choice and seeing as how they wanted to separate both shows it was very necessary to be done. someone please talk to me about legend of korra, how do you feel about the past lives being severed and how the next avatar wonât be able to connect to the past avatars including korra. Even though Korra's connection to her past lives were lost, during her Avatar state enhanced Energybending, she was able to create a new spirit portal, a feat no Aavatar was able to do. 8 Defeat: Green Goblin. Roku battled a volcano and won, and would have survived if not for Sozin. Getting rid of 98% filler irrelevant characters, and the other 2% that are no longer directly relevant to the era and can still have their own stories in their own time, I'm all for it. She learns metalbending, connects with her spiritual side better, overcomes so much trauma, starts accepting herself, and is able to energybend the spiritual energy of that large BAMF spirit laser cannon. It takes away that reassurance there will always be some ghost who's going to solve your moral dilemma which absolutely fantastic. I felt it was important for us to understand that an Avatar’s, or any other individual’s strength, lies in who they are - how they overcome their obstacles. I like that it got rid of the Deus Ex Machina that they used in Book 1, and throughout a lot of ATLA, but it did get rid of a lot of interesting stories they could’ve told in Korra. Why should I? Notice Unalaq, merged with Vaatu, also in a anti-Avatar glow. Losing the ability to access the memories and collective knowledge of dozens upon dozens of previous Avatars is a critical disadvantage in a fight with Aang. I honestly don’t care, it’s Korra’s story and it’s about her struggles as the avatar and as a person and if losing the connection is part of that so be it. Sheâs the only avatar (that we know of) aware of the origin and her connection with raava, and we get to see one of the most impactful, symbolic moments of the show: aangs statue fading into korraâs face in the water. Because of this, she and every Avatar after her will no longer be able to gain the wisdom of their past lives and will only have Korra to mentor them. Secondly, this comes just as she was truly learning to appreciate and take advantage of her spiritual connections as the avatar. Thirdly, it fuckin hurts to see. To me, Korra's journey shows more accurately how being the Avatar tends to be. I get why people who are in love with the idea of past lives would be bothered, but I don't share that hang up. But I wholly disagree. At the age of four, she proudly introduced herself to the Order of the White Lotus as the new Avatar by performing water-, earth-, and firebending before them. On the world AND on Korra. When Vaatu severed Korraâs connection to the past Avatars, itâs presumed that it was because he âkilledâ Raava and the past Avatars. Could be a cool challenge for an older Korra in a largely peaceful world to seek out her predecessors. 1st Season ends with Korra learning airbending and accessing the avatar state. The spirit of Raava torn from her body and destroyed by the villainous Unalaq, in the wake of the climactic battle, Korra's connection to the Avatar State seemed irreparably severed. Also, having Aang around would bring out a certain section of the fanbase who would wonder why she wouldn't be consulting him for EVERYTHING. And people victim blame / use it to tear down Korra’s character as if it’s somehow her fault that Unalaq and Vaatu did something so bad to her / Raava. But it just sucks that the option literally just isn't there anymore. 1 Avatar Korra - Losing Her Connection To Her Past Lives Fortunately for Aang, however, when Korra came around, she was able to breathe new life into the world in the form of new airbenders. get out here now before i die, or i will cross over the other side and come after you there.â] But look at the previous Avatars. Sheâs able to speak with numerous Avatars who came before her. It obviously sucks for the characters, but not so much for the viewer. Liked it, dont care about the past lives and I hate that people dont seem to understand that 1. She assumes the connection is completely severed.-When Korra is eventually captured and poisoned by the Red Lotus, this forces her into the Avatar state and she beats Zaheer who is taken prisoner. A bad decision. ... Thanos' power is more than anything Korra has faced in the past by a mile, even including the spirit canon and the Dark Avatar. If so why? One of the heavy hitters of The Legend of Korra was when Korra ended the Avatar Cycle and began a new one. It was supposed to hurt. She's been through so much, experienced more in her short time since going to Republic City than some other avatars that she would be able to guide the next one in a lot of things. Now in season 2, not only his the instrument of that salvation permanently lost to korra, its partially her fault. The TLDR basically is, sure she could have used them at some points, but not having them wasn't exactly a hindrance to her journey. But after, after Harmonic Convergence, and the loss of her past lives, what does Korra do? A major story arc in The Legend of Korra revolves around Korra's connection to the past Avatars being completely severed. CAPTAIN THE SALT LEVELS ARE NEARING EPIC PORPORTIONS. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The past lives will still be apart of the future Avatars. That was one of the bigger reasons Roku stepped in to help Aang, he had literally no idea what to do a lot of the time, at the fire sages temple, how to get the ocean and moon spirits to help, understanding the context for Sozin and Roku's friendship and subsequently the war beginning. Beyond this thematic tie-in, the end of season 2 makes sense from a narrative standpoint, given the initial role of the Avatar between the ⦠Funny thing is, if you would ask this question on the ATLA subreddit people wouldn't be nearly as thoughtful as they are here. I dislike it. There weren't any harmonic convergences between wan and korra, harmonic convergence happens every 10,000 years. Author has 2.3K answers and 3.1M answer views. I actually really like the idea, and it is one of the things that redeems season 2 from being not good (overall I think its just OK or meh but never really bad at all). Firstly, it embodies the kind of permanent consequences that I missed at the end of season 1. That makes it ballsy and I appreciate that. I don't expect anyone to see or respond to this, better yet there's the chance it'll be removed but whatever. People on this sub think more and I really like it. Think about it, before HC, what was Korra like, bending wise? Yeah, she was a prodigy at a young age, but still, having been said to master Water, Earth, and Fire, she still really shows only a surface mastership of those elements. She was never going to contact them anyway. Korra may not know what to do all the time, but she's not as helpless as Aang was when he first began his journey as a kid fresh out of the iceberg. I like it for the same reasons others have said (takes away an all-too-convenient device, is interesting story-wise). What are you talking about? I would rather see her interact with her past lives. Kuruk was able to slay evil spirits, which took a harsh toll on him, yet he still lived quite healthy, other than some unsavory characteristics that he used to overcome that emptiness. More posts from the legendofkorra community, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. It bothered me because it meant no more Aang spitting wisdom. No growth, no consequences. It puts the onus on Korra as the new first Avatar. Wans story takes place 10,000 years before korras, no other avatar aside from him and korra experienced harmonic convergence. She merged back with Raava, but the problem here is that she didn't restore the old connection, she created a new one. That or the concept of past lives is completely different in Avatar. Without this guidance she is forced to look inward and come to peace with her life independently. Or rather, equal to one other: Wan. Korra relied heavily on her past lives to give her important insight and context to ⦠Overall, it's neutral in my eyes. Physical disability? I always loved when Aang interacted with his past lives in ATLA and would have loved to see Korra interact with them. No past lives. This builds her character and creates a fabulous arc. Korra still feels guilty about losing her connection to her past lives, so she goes to the Spirit World to find a way. I don't disagree with most of the reasons people here list for it being a bold and interesting choice, I just personally really dislike it because I love the interactions between Avatars and their past lives.